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karl rove, who's essentially an nra spokesman. he went on sunday morning tv and he actually got confused. he thought he was on fox, so he started spewing a bunch of falsehoods and he got slapped back in the cheap seats, when it was pointed out, you can't transfer stuff in the family, and national registry, which there's no such thing as that. but people should watch that. it gives you an example of the level to which they will go to. if they have $25 million, as governor dean can tell you, which is funded by gun manufacturers. they'll crank out more. and he also makes a very good point. there's a lot of hunters in vermont. most people don't realize that. it's a great outdoor state. and the average hunter is fine with crazy people not being able to buy guns or felons not being able to buy guns. that's not what they're going to get told. you can see what carl was doing when he was there, acting on behalf of the nra with a sunday morning show with jordan stephanopoulos. thank god he was confused and thought he was on fox and they slapped him back. that happens sometimes. >> governo
the republican party. >> karl rove, can you imagine the next presidential campaign, a republican candidate saying, flat-out, i am for gay marriage? >> i could. ♪ wouldn't it be nice if we were older then we wouldn't have to wait so long ♪ i'm up next, but now i'm singing the heartburn blues. hold on, prilosec isn't for fast relief. cue up alka-seltzer. it stops heartburn fast. ♪ oh what a relief it is! cue up alka-seltzer. it stops heartburn fast. (announcer) at scottrade, our cexactly how they want.t with scottrade's online banking, i get one view of my bank and brokerage accounts with one login... to easily move my money when i need to. plus, when i call my local scottrade office, i can talk to someone who knows how i trade. because i don't trade like everybody. i trade like me. i'm with scottrade. (announcer) scottrade. awarded five-stars from smartmoney magazine. only hertz gives you a carfirmation. hey, this is challenger. i'll be waiting for you in stall 5. it confirms your reservation and the location your car is in, the moment you land. it's just another way you'll be traveling at t
when a private jet crashes into three homes. >>> political warfare. karl "the architect" rove against sarah "governor half-term" palin. >>> pope francis is shaking up the cat lick church ahead of his official evaluation. >>> an amazing helicopter jailbreak. guilty verdicts in the steubenville rape case but that's not the end. and the world goes green for st. patrick. >>> investigators are on-scene in northern indiana this morning after a fiery crash involving a small private jet. four people were on board, two have died. early reports say the plane was experiencing mechanical troubles in its final minutes. nbc's frances koe has the latest on the crash and the investigation. >> reporter: the trin-engine jet crashed into three homes as it was coming into the south bend airport sunday afternoon. a neighbor saw the plane crash into the home across the street. >> heard the jet engines coming and looked up and actually thought the plane was going to crash into our house. and i just hit the deck. and i heard a loud boom noise and the plane went into three houses across the street from us. >>
. >>> this is going to be fun. we're back. it's no secret karl rove takes a dim view of sarah palin, and she returns to favor. last weekend their long simmering feud boiled over after palin slammed rove's efforts to vet more electable candidates during his cpac speech. >> if these experts who keep losing elections, keep getting re-hired, raking in millions, if they feel that strongly about who gets to run in this party, then they should buck up or stay in the truck. buck up and run. the architects can head on back to -- [ applause ] -- they can head on back to the great lone star state and put their name on some ballot. though for their sake, i hope they give themselves a discount on their consulting services. >> and that didn't sit well with the architect, himself, karl rove. he hit back hard. the very next day on fox. >> if she can play in primaries, other people can play in primaries. i'm a volunteer. i don't take a dime from my work with american red cross. i pay my own travel expenses out of my own pocket. i don't think i'm a good candidate, a balding fat guy. second of all, i'd say if i did ru
other. the main event. i'd go on the road with this baby. sarah palin. the white trunks. karl rove in the black trunks. what a tussle. >>> let me finish with the circular firing squad now assembled in the republican party. it's a beaut to watch. this is "hardball" the place for politics. as your life changes, fidelity is there for your personal economy, helping you readjust along the way, refocus as careers change and kids head off to college, and revisit your investments as retirement gets closer. wherever you are today, fidelity's guidance can help you fine-tune your personal economy. start today with a free one-on-one review of your retirement plan. [ female announcer ] stress sweat is different than ordinary sweat. it smells worse. get 4x the protection against stress sweat. introducing new secret clinical strength stress response scent. mr. wiggles and curling irons. for the little mishaps you feel, use neosporin to help you heal. it kills germs so you heal four days faster neosporin. also try neosporin eczema essentials. >>> tonight president obama is traveling to israel in h
equality. karl rove signaled there could be a major shift in his party's outlook. >> karl rove, could you imagine a republican candidate saying i'm for gay marriage? >> i could. >> the supreme court begins arguments on it, the legality and one benefit to endorsing the notion with one strategist te telling politico opening up the idea will open up donors around the country. >>> zuckerberg is forming an issues advocacy organization focusing on comprehensive immigration reform. >>> rand paul doesn't want to legalize drugs but doesn't want them to go to jail either. >> the last two presidents could have conceivably been put in jail for drug use. it would have ruined their lives. it got lucky but a lot of poor kids don't get lucky. >> pending senate bill would give judges greater flexibility to work around mandatory minimum sentences for those crimes. >>> claire mccaskill is throwing her support behind same-sex marriage saying it's the right thing to do. >>> president obama will host a seder dinner. he became the first sitting president to hold seder at the executive mansion back in 2009. >>>
, the right wing is going nuts over it. >>> plus look out, karl rove. here comes sarah palin. she's throwing red meat to the far right, and taking aim at the architect. >> if these experts who keep losing elections, you keep getting rehired, raking in millions, the architects can head on back to -- they can head on back to the great lone star state. >>> also, the devil photo that everybody's talking about. does he look familiar to you? >>> and my live interview with the raging cajun. james carville, big show tonight. stay with us. oh this is lame, investors could lose tens of thousands of dollars on their 401(k) to hidden fees. is that what you're looking for, like a hidden fee in your giant mom bag? maybe i have them... oh that's right i don't because i rolled my account over to e-trade where... woah. okay... they don't have hidden fees... hey fern. the junk drawer? why would they... is that my gerbil? you said he moved to a tiny farm. that's it, i'm running away. no, no you can't come! [ male announcer ] e-trade. less for us. more for you. a new ride comes along and changes everything. the
whitestrips. >>> they're the republicans liberals love to hate. sarah palin and karl rove mixed it up. rove returned fire after palin took shots at him and his group american cross roads which hope to weed out of the candidates in the 2016 primaries. >> the last thing we need is washington, d.c. vegt our candidates. the architects can head on back to -- they can head on back to the great lone star state and put their name on some ballot. >> well, first of all, i live in texas. i don't live in washington. and second of all, i'd say if i did run for office and win, i'd serve out my term. i wouldn't leave office in midterm. >> ahh. the theater. let's bring in republican strategic rich galen, former director speaker for newt gingrich we also have former governor ed rendell. when sarah palin was making her remarks, apparently atlugd karl rove. do most americans agree with sarah palin that karl rove is part of the problem, not the solution. >> that's the kind of snarky sarcasm that i think the country sees coming out of the republican party. it's not helpful. it's not forward-looking. there's no
mccaskill came out for same sex marriage. even republican guru karl rove said he could see a republican presidential candidate supporting gay marriage. then there's a new poll. majority of americans, 58%, say same sex marriage should be legal. >> we're not asking for a new constitutional right. the constitutional right to marry is well established. in fact, the supreme court ruled you can't take away the right to marry, even from imprisoned felons. this is a basic civil rights issue. i don't think this is the kind of issue that will divide the court the way other issues divide the court. >> asia mills and jimmy la sylvia, director of go proud. good to see you both. >> thanks for having me. >> frank bruni said the final chapter of this story has in fact been written. the question isn't whether there will be a happy ending, the question is when. asia, is he right? >> absolutely. the tide has completely shifted on the as you announced earlier, the polling on marriage equality. we know this is not a matter of if, it is a matter of when. the states are moving this direction, it
, is you can get all this with a prepaid card. spends like cash. feels like membership. >>> karl rove, can you imagine the next presidential campaign, a republican candidate saying flat-out, i am for gay marriage. >> i could. >> well, karl rove says it's possible, but the majority of republican lawmakers don't seem eager to throw their support behind same-sex marriage, at least not yet. joining me now for the daily fix, "washington post" editorial columnist ruth marcus and politico senior reporter jonathan martin, j-mart to all of us who know him. >> how about those hoyas? >> let's not start on the hoyas, thank you, jonathan. >> did somebody rev up jonathan today? >> yes, he starts out like that. jonathan, let's talk about same-sex marriage. i want to talk about the issue it creates for the republican party. which is, you have some people saying look, karl rove. saying our party may move towards this by 2016. there's plenty of people, aka the base of the party who don't think they should ever move that direction. does it divide the party? and where do they wind up? >> i can imagine there's
ryou very much. we haven't had a chance to go to karl rove. karl rove is out there demagoguing this issue saying if you have background check you're going to have a national registry and confiscation is just down the road. thank you, mark. we have to keep up this fight. thank you, chief. >>> coming up, the biggest week ever on gay marriage. the supreme court is hearing two cases this week. one on california's prop 8. the other on the defense of marriage act, doma. will the supreme court follow public opinion? or will it stand and yell, stop? >>> in the 1970s the republican party began two decades in the wilderness when it swung too far to the left from where the country was at the time. now it's the republican party's turn. new polling suggests the gop is at its worst. the hard right is trying to keep itself in office and the party out of the white house, it seems. >>> remember last year how republicans were insisting all the calls were dead wrong right up until mitt romney actually lost? with those numbers? and even after that? well, they're at it again. now it's the polls on
comes out for gay marriage two years after his son tells him he's gay. sarah palin and karl rove are at each other's throats. the republican autopsy is in but they're still stuck on slavery. what the devil is going on with the history channel. but tonight we start in steubenville, ohio. this is "the ed show," and as ed would say, let's get to work. let's begin with the facts. two members of the steubenville high school football team were found guilty this weekend of raining a 16-year-old girl last year. the judge handed down the verdicts in juvenile court. >> regarding the charges of rain, both are committed to the department of youth services for a minimum period of one year, a maximum period till you're 21. >> the defendants were taken into custody and sent to a juvenile detention center. 16-year-old malik richmond was found delinquent on charges of rain that carry a minimum of one year in detention. 17-year-old trent mays was found delinquent on charges of rain and nudity-oriented material. he was sentenced to a minimum of two years in a juvenile detention center. both teens c
wedding rings and all other parts of straight life. the karl rove winning elections and the abolitionists wing are in for a prolonged situation. 2014 will be tough, but once these two gangs, the palin and rove crowds, have to meet again in 2016, it's not going to be pretty and sure as hell isn't going to be a marriage and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, welcome to "the ed show." i'm michael eric dyson. elizabeth warren takes a stand for working class americans. michele bachmann has seen the light on infrastructure and might be getting off the appalachain trail and heading back to washington and a southern pastor makes a radical stand for justice. but tonight, we start with the tenth anniversary of the ed show. let's get to work. the shock and awe campaign was launched against -- a decade later, the forces behind with trying to revise that history. today, donald rumsfeld tweeted ten years ago, the long, difficult work of liberating 25 million iraqis deserve our respect and appreciation. put aside for the mome
catch that? karl rove said it's not paranoid to think that black helicopters are going to swoop in and steal everybody's guns. this kind of rhetoric is out of touch and it's behind the times. joining me now is maria teresa kumar. >> we are indeed. the american public is a bit ahead of congress and i think you're going to see, because of the public pressure, more and more congress members falling in line to do the right thing. i was getting a headache listening to some of these people talk about paranoia. look, congress, i think, for the first time during my lifetime, seems to be moving toward putting some commonsense things together with regard to some kind of gun legislation. not to take anybody's gun. nobody is trying to take anybody's guns. i have family members that need to own guns because of where they live and things that are happening in and around their own homes, but they are not jumping up and hiding and listening at night for the black hawk helicopters. we've had ridiculous things happen in schools and legislators are now listening. >> when you look at the facts, mar
your super pac. karl rove has been taking a lot of hits for saying he wants to back more moderate candidates, they want to get away from the todd akins of the republican party. is there a difference between your super pac and his? >> they're going to focus on the senate. i sat down with karl a month ago. i said, respectively, you're not the face of mod kaeration on th republican party. >> how did he respond to that? >> he chuckled. because it's true. the fact that somebody is attacking karl rove and john boehner as being squishy moderates, that tells you how far to the right some of these folks have gone. so what we hope to do is play in republican primaries in the house, not attacking anybody, but saying that if you happen to reflect new england or ohio or pennsylvania, there shouldn't be some litmus test based upon a few wealthy people as to whether or not you're a good republican. electability is what it's about. >> former congressman, good to see you. thanks so much. >>> checking the news feed this morning, colorado police are following up on several tips in their man hunt for
autopsy. >>> meanwhile, it's another conservative clash as sarah palin ridicules karl rove's reaction to the last election. rove wastes no time firing back. >>> also today, a deep dive. previewing president obama's trip to the middle east this week. will expectations grow for a major peace plan progress before the end of his presidency? >>> good morning from port aransas, texas. >> it's monday, march 18th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown." >> now here's chuck todd! >> big thank you to maddie and noah salazar. on spring break at port aransas, texas. first reads of the morning. by the way, see the beach when it's sleeting behind me is kind of a nice little picture there. >>> right now republican party chairman reince priebus is unveiling his own autopsy of what went wrong in 2012. while the report blames the process more than gop prince ips or policy position it also admits more problems than you might expect. >> there's no one reason we lost. our message was weak. our ground game was insufficient. we weren't inclusive. we were behind in both data and digital. and our primary debate pr
to marco rubio. but sarah palin taking on karl rove in a thinly-veiled jibe at rove and rove come back on fox news. >> if they feel that strongly about who gets to run in that party, then they should buck up or stay in the truck, buck up and run. the architects can head on back to -- they can head on back to the great lone star state and put their name on some ballot. >> if she can plan primaries other people can plan primaries. i don't think i'm a particularly good candidate, a balding foot phat guy and if i did run for office and win, i would serve out my term, i wouldn't leave office mid-term. >> ouch. >> is palin still a factor? she brought the crowd to their feet on saturday afternoon. >> i don't think she's a factor at all. i think she's just an amusing reality show to watch. >> she accused the president, she said that the white house is a reality show. this is a woman via mark burnett did her own reality show and she accused barack obama of having a reality show. >> she's got a tart approach and she gives a good show, reality or not reality. but i don't think she's a serious pol
, period. my bet is that the political marriage of these two groups, the karl rove crowd who love winning elections and the abolitionist wing who'd rathder fight thand switch are in for a prolonged separation. progressives, enjoy it while it lasts. 2014 will be tough but once these two gangs, the palin and rove crowds have to meet again in 2016 it's not going to be pretty. it sure as hell isn't going to be marriage. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >>> thanks, chris. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, ten years after the start of the iraq war, too many on the right still don't get it. ten years ago tonight president bush announced the u.s. had started bombing iraq. he did this despite the millions of us who marched in the streets demanding that he stop beating the drums of war. the bush administration sold the war using the worst kinds of falsehoods and fearmongering. >> but we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. >> the checks alleged that the attacker met in prague with a senior iraqi intelli
court says regarding same-sex marriage, karl rove is indicating that he can imagine a republican candidate backing same-sex marriage also. is there a money motivation for some in the gop to now support same-sex marriage? a political article of we'll dig deep in that and join our conversation on twitter. you can find us on tamron hall. i was cooking dinner for my family. boom. heart attack. the doctor recommends bayer aspirin to keep this from happening to me again. it's working. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. it can happen to anyone. talk to your doctor. >>> more now on tomorrow's supreme court hearings on same-sex marriage. a growing number of politicians in gop country are following a trend of support for gay rights. now first republican senator rob portman and today, claire mccass kell. in a new york time op ed, frank bruney made this comparison. he said somewhere along the way standing up for gay marriage went from nervy to trendy. it is the harlem shake of political engagement. senior political editor mark murray joins
by the committees, but that's the way that things actual think give and take. >> there's the ark tlect. karl rove on abc this morning. the two plans lawmakers will take up when they come back from spring break. the senate budget passed early yesterday. could not be more different than the house version. according to the "new york times," the senate plan calls for nearly $1 trillion in new taxes, modest cuts in government spending but leaves the government with $566 billion in annual deficits over the next ten years. the house plan balances the budget by 2023 with big cuts in domestic spending and major changes to medicare and the tax code. charlie rangel, new york's most famous congressman, is here with me. former chair of the house ways and means committee. start with the chasm between the two plans. is there room for compromise at all between the senate and house plan? >> the major difference is that, obama and most of the country that voted for him really thinks that a time of recession that we're coming out of it that we should be creating jobs and not laying off people just with cuts. that i
backed by karl rove and former executives from sun micro systems is designed to give republican systems a leg up where many struggled last cycle. >> i want to be careful when i say this. karl rove ran through how much money last year? >> a lot. >> how much? >> tens of millions. >> no. over hundreds of millions. >> goodness gracious. >> i'm not saying karl should be set on the sidelines. but, man, he saw nothing coming. nothing. in fact, he was still sound like the boy in the plastic bubble like late into the evening on election night. still not knowing about -- >> with all of that money, had the worst record than the new york mets. >> he had a terrible record. again, i'm not knocking him, but he is the only guy we have? i mean, even people extraordinarily close to george w. bush said karl had his own numbers. you know? you never knew what you were getting with karl. is this the only guy that our millionaires and billionaires want to give money to? look. i love karl. give karl some money, but we need some other people. >> who you got? >> crossroads had 1.2% success rate. i don't know. so
to start a fight with karl rove. >> the last thing we need is washington vetting our candidates. if these experts, who keep losing elections yet keep getting rehired, reeking in millions, if they feel that strongly about who gets to run in this party, then they should buck up or stay in the truck. buck up and run. the architects can head on back to -- [ applause ] >> they can head on back to the great lone star state and put their name on some ballad, though i hope they give themselves a discount on the consulting services. >> yeah, cpac is not a place where ideas get launched. it's cable news chum. it's three days of fantasy. there's always so much guaranteed red meat at cpac. there's so much off the wall cookiness. cpac is fun, right? it's fun to cover. it got a ton of press and frankly, people may still be taking about sarah palin and her taking a giant sip out of a tub of soda pop, or where mitt romney called iraq a war of liberation. people might still be talking about all this stuff if it were not for this. the day after cpac ended, the morning after cpac ended, the republ
the evidence. they browbeat people. they would karl rove as their political hench men. the vote was scheduled on the eve of the elections deliberately. i don't want to let democrats off the hook. 29 senate democrats voted to authorize the use of force. some apologized later like john kerry. some brave people came out against it as you showed. barbara boxer, dick durbin, paul wellstone, but there is a tendency among democrats that really worries me. it's to act as though maybe their patriotism is possibly going to be called into question and they're always appeasing these bullies who question their very americanness and we saw that over and over at 9/11 and particularly in the run-up to war. it was a little bit frightening to be against the war as i was. we weren't really singled out and ridiculed, but we were right. they will go down in history as having done the wrong thing. it requires a lot of vigilance to make sure nothing like that happens again. >> given what the congresswoman said earlier, are we still at risk despite their bold and creative witness of a march to war of this magnitude
when jeb bush tried to do that with immigration, look at the pushback that he got. and today karl rove wrote a piece in "the wall street journal." he said this. "understanding that today's technology has the shelf life of a banana, silicon valley republicans are working to modernize the gop's voter file in advance of next year's midterm." he didn't right anything about modernizing the gop policies, just their list of voters. >> well, this is going to be their problem, too. because the tea party element is that they don't think strategically. otherwise, they would have control of the senate right now. they lost colorado, denver, nevada, and they are not thinking strategically and really don't care if the republican wins so much as whether the republican keeps to their very hardcore view of issues like immigration. and like abortion and other things like that. but the party -- when you you talked about abortion, the party has a lot more repairing to do. there are a lot of women who are anti-abortion. it was a contraception argument. the insults that came from members of the party and the
-drinker, sarah palin, who lobbed a verbal spit ball right at bush's brain, karl rove. >> these experts who keep losing elections, keep getting rehired, raking in millions, buck up or stay in the truck. buck up and run. the architects can head on back to -- they can head on back to the great lone star state and put their name on some ballot. >> rove responded that he didn't think it would be a very good -- he would be a very good candidate because he is, quote, sort of a balding fat guy. buck up, karl. take a big gulp. you have a long week ahead. we are joined now by msnbc political analyst, former senior adviser to the president, david axelrod live with us from phoenix, arizona. good afternoon, sir. >> martin, good to be with you. >> it's been suggested that you and your team were responsible for defining mitt romney and the republican party over the course of last year. in fact, both mr. romney and mrs. romney have complained that they were negatively defined by the president's campaign. but don't the events at cpac this weekend prove that if anyone's responsible for the ugly, noninclusive bra
-down, drag-out free for all where sarah palin jumps off her stool to throw punches at karl rove. >> the last thing we need is washington, d.c. vetting our candidates. the architects can head on back to -- >> they can head on back to the lone star state and put their name on a ballot. >> i would say if i did run for office and win, i would serve out my term. i wouldn't leave office mid-term. >> the kind of fracas that sees ted cruz take on john mccain. >> we had an eminent member of the republican party describe me as whacko bird. if standing for the constitution makes me a whacko bird, then count me a proud whacko bird. >> the kind of intraparty donnybrook featuring ann coulter versus ann coulter. here is what she said two years ago. >> if you don't run chris christie, romney will be the nominee. and lose. >> and here is ann coulter this weekend, landing one squarely on the jaw of the very same guy she once wanted to elect president. >> even cpac had to cut back on his speakers this year by about 300 pounds. i'm now a single-issue voter against amnesty. so christie's off my list. >> the next
, i'd serve out my term. >> so, ben, no love lost between karl rove and sarah palin. how quickly do you think reince priebus and folks at rnc want to get stars like rove and palin and moving forward? >> well, if sarah palin wins this fight, i think you'll see the republican party in tatters like it was during the goldwater days. you're laying the groundwork for somebody like rand paul to win the iowa caucus us. chairman priebus made all the right recommendations. i would have gone further and said challenge your electorate. challenge your base. open up those primaries to independents. then you'll get republican candidates incentive to run to the center instead of to the right of rand paul. if those candidates win out you'll see democrats do very well in the midterms and four years. >> real quick guys, element number four of the cpac straw poll it puts rand paul in at 25%. marco rubio at 23%. so we have a leader there. our power panel, perry bacon, ben labolt, susan del percio. thank you. >>> university of central florida's main campus in orlando will reopen and classes will resume a
, what nia mentioned, karl rove running against marriage equality provoked democrats into more of a spirited defense of it and more alignment with it, because rove kind of forced the issue. >> i mean remember, in 2004 in states like ohio, it was such a divisive issue, same sex marriage, you had people very protective on one hand and scared on the other. over four years, what we have had in terms of political conversation is a number of people that had personal experiences with gay members of the family or communities, so it is affecting people not just in democratic circles but republican circles. rob portman this past week, his son is gay, that effected him. we had a number of top conservative donors in the tri-state area that have become devoted to the gay rights cause in part because of family members and are bank rolling candidates on that issue. that as much as anything else has been a huge boost to the lbgt movement. >> listen to john boehner that insists no matter how many relatives he has who may want marriage equality, he will never go there. listen to this. >> can you
of bloomberg versus nra money, it is an issue about doing what the american people want done. >> karl rove over the weekend, you have taken a listen no doubt, had this advice for democrats on gun control on nbc. let's listen. >> you want to get something done, stop scaring people. don't say we're keeping a registry of all of the guns. >> stop it. it is not scaring people. >> others are saying who's doing the scaring, gun advocates are ones doing the scaring. who is doing the scaring? >> i think both sides are trying to scare the other, whether it is nra using nanny state bloomberg message or sometimes you see the republicans say yes, they're going to take guns away. the fact of the matter is this law will probably pass when it comes to background checks. the sadder part is that senator reid didn't allow a vote on assault weapons before break. that's the biggest issue in this legislation or supposed legislation that michael bloomberg is looking for. will they probably come to a compromise? yes. is michael bloomberg on the right side of the issue? absolutely. it is problematic making him the face
, the pragmatic political conversion of the karl roves of the world who can read an exit poll who says we can't win national elections losing 75-25. can't do it. but then what's interesting to me is when i covered the 2007 fight, you know, those office switch boards were flooded every right-wing talk show host every day was in the weed of everything on mccain-kennedy. there was this massive genuine grassroots backlash and you saw it in town halls. very tea party stuff. gary you covered this. why are things different because that to me is i..ing. pragmatic calculation on behalf of the republican elite i get. >> there's a sense they love, the right loves power more than it hates immigrants. that's the point. if they carry on doing this they will lose and there are so many other things at stake if they lose that they can't carry on in their way. so there's that sense of inevitabilitity forces a reconing. there was a time in the '60s when no one would engage, a large part of the population wouldn't engage with civil rights. then they said we have to find a way to do this. there's no reason why im
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